Comments on: Friendship and Making Disciples 2 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/ the blog of a disciple maker Mon, 02 Apr 2012 00:51:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jeremy Hawes http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-259 Jeremy Hawes Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:59:03 +0000 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/30/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/#comment-259 Lewie - I wanted to send you something in the mail - where I can mail it to you? Lewie – I wanted to send you something in the mail – where I can mail it to you?

]]> By: Lewie http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-237 Lewie Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:14:18 +0000 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/30/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/#comment-237 Matt, Yes, I would pursue the discipler. A discipler has a heart for men like you-as Jonathan did for David, Paul for Timothy. But don't be surprised if the man you ask to disciple you does not follow through or says no. Usually the reason they don't follow through or say no is because they don't feel qualified. (even if they are.) Don't be afraid to pursue the friendship with the discipler even if you have to take the initiative. A young friend can teach an older person how to be a friend. Lewie Matt,
Yes, I would pursue the discipler. A discipler has a heart for men like you-as Jonathan did for David, Paul for Timothy.
But don’t be surprised if the man you ask to disciple you does not follow through or says no. Usually the reason they don’t follow through or say no is because they don’t feel qualified. (even if they are.) Don’t be afraid to pursue the friendship with the discipler even if you have to take the initiative. A young friend can teach an older person how to be a friend.

Lewie

]]> By: Matt http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-235 Matt Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:39:31 +0000 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/30/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/#comment-235 Lewie, What if you are a person who is seeking to be discipled and feel led to a certain person? Should you pursue that or wait? Lewie,
What if you are a person who is seeking to be discipled and feel led to a certain person? Should you pursue that or wait?

]]> By: Lewie http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-234 Lewie Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:00:02 +0000 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/30/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/#comment-234 Ramon, I do think the initial meeting and response tells a lot. It is not only their response buy also my own response. I can usually discern if the Holy Spirit was in the encounter or not. (I have wondered if the Spirit of God put into Jonathan a love for David because Jonathan was to be an instrument in the hand of God to prepare David for kingship. Does the Holy Spirit put a love in me for a person who I am to disciple or befriend?) I do ask the Lord to send the right people to me and keep the wrong ones away. My point is to be aware that others may not have the skill set or the emotional health to be a friend. You make a good point about the Jesus and his various encounters with people. I do find it interesting that he chose the 12. There is no record of any of them coming to him seeking to follow him. (As you point out those who came to him to follow him he either turned away or the price was too great for them to follow.) Ramon,
I do think the initial meeting and response tells a lot. It is not only their response buy also my own response. I can usually discern if the Holy Spirit was in the encounter or not. (I have wondered if the Spirit of God put into Jonathan a love for David because Jonathan was to be an instrument in the hand of God to prepare David for kingship. Does the Holy Spirit put a love in me for a person who I am to disciple or befriend?) I do ask the Lord to send the right people to me and keep the wrong ones away. My point is to be aware that others may not have the skill set or the emotional health to be a friend.
You make a good point about the Jesus and his various encounters with people. I do find it interesting that he chose the 12. There is no record of any of them coming to him seeking to follow him. (As you point out those who came to him to follow him he either turned away or the price was too great for them to follow.)

]]> By: Ramón http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-233 Ramón Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:39:59 +0000 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/30/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/#comment-233 Lewie, how does the initial response of the potential disciple play into this? We see in the gospels that Jesus calls some and they won't come, and others come to follow Jesus and he will not let them. Is an openness to that friendship a prerequisite to the identification of a potential disciple? Lewie, how does the initial response of the potential disciple play into this? We see in the gospels that Jesus calls some and they won’t come, and others come to follow Jesus and he will not let them. Is an openness to that friendship a prerequisite to the identification of a potential disciple?

]]> By: Lewie http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-232 Lewie Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:35:02 +0000 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/30/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/#comment-232 I teach friendship by being a friend to them and by their observing my friendship with others. Practically, this means pursuing them by spending time with them and during that time getting to know them and discovering with them God's purpose for their life. (Note: Jonathan understood clearly what God's purpose was for David's life.) Nothing cures selfishness like sacrificial love. My responsibility is to love the other even in their selfishness. My conviction is that the Holy Spirit is at work in that child of God and that he will orchestrate perfect circumstances at the exact time to deal with the selfishness in their heartIt was sacrificial love demonstrated on the cross of Jesus that was the death blow to all of our pride and self-centeredness. I teach friendship by being a friend to them and by their observing my friendship with others. Practically, this means pursuing them by spending time with them and during that time getting to know them and discovering with them God’s purpose for their life. (Note: Jonathan understood clearly what God’s purpose was for David’s life.)

Nothing cures selfishness like sacrificial love. My responsibility is to love the other even in their selfishness. My conviction is that the Holy Spirit is at work in that child of God and that he will orchestrate perfect circumstances at the exact time to deal with the selfishness in their heartIt was sacrificial love demonstrated on the cross of Jesus that was the death blow to all of our pride and self-centeredness.

]]> By: bjones http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-231 bjones Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:47:39 +0000 http://imitatingjesus.org/2008/06/30/making-disciples-and-friendship-part-2/#comment-231 Lew, You said: "Friendship is a learned skill. I teach my disciple how to receive friendship and how to be a friend." couple of questions: 1) how do you teach someone this? 2) how do you teach this to someone who is extremely selfish? Lew,

You said: “Friendship is a learned skill. I teach my disciple how to receive friendship and how to be a friend.”

couple of questions:
1) how do you teach someone this?
2) how do you teach this to someone who is extremely selfish?

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